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Welcome to Hadley Presents.

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I'm your host, Ricky Enger, inviting you to sit back, relax,

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and enjoy a conversation with the experts.

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In this episode, we discuss getting back into the kitchen

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after vision loss,

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and our guest is Chef Regina Mitchell.

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Welcome to the show, Regina.

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So glad to have you.

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It's a indeed a pleasure to be here.

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I am so excited to hear your story

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because I wouldn't say that I'm an amazing cook,

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but I learned a bit later in life

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and it's something that I've discovered

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that is a really enjoyable thing for me.

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I get a lot of relaxation out of it.

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I get joy from feeding my family,

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and sometimes there's just something therapeutic

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about getting into the kitchen

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and doing a little experimenting.

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So I am personally really looking forward

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to hearing your story and I know that others will as well.

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Why don't we start out by just talking a bit

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about who you are and what you do.

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I am a complicated, amazing woman

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that has probably lived three lifetimes.

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I can go back in my life

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and each of those segments amazes me

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that it's an amazing different chapter.

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Chapter one, I was born the oldest

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of four children to teenage parents

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who were absolutely amazing parents.

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But older in life, the twins, they were 14,

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I was just barely 15,

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and the youngest twin passed away,

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and he passed away from spinal meningitis,

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which now is totally curable.

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And so my mother, of course, it just devastated her

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and she went into her room

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and she didn't come out for quite some time.

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And so I stepped in as a older sister.

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I cooked, I cleaned, I got the kids, I even say now,

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kids ready for school.

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I did their lunches. We walked to school.

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I helped them with their homework.

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The things that I didn't know,

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I called both of my grandparents, my grandmas,

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and they guided me.

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And now growing older, I went to school

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and I was a very lively, vibrant young girl.

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I had so many activities to go to, cheer camps,

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and I was just all over the place.

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And football games, basketball games, they called me Spirit.

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That was my nickname on my letter jacket.

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And then growing, another lifetime,

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I met my husband in 1982-83,

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and we just fell in love.

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He asked me to marry him and I said, absolutely.

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We are living in Southern California.

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That's where I grew up.

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My husband was called to the ministry

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and we decided to move to British Columbia, Canada.

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And then shortly after that,

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I encountered a horrific situation

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that caused me depression, I would maybe say.

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And then my husband said, "Okay, what are we gonna do?"

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And I decided to go to school

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and he said, "What do you wanna go to school for?"

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"I want to be a chef."

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And so he found an amazing culinary school for me to go to.

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And so I found a school in Seattle,

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the Seattle Culinary Art Institute.

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And that's where I went for two years.

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My husband would visit me and we go back

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and forth from the British Columbia to Seattle.

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I graduated top of my class.

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And because of my accolades,

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I qualified for a British fellowship.

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And that was an 18 month fellowship,

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which took me the first trip and stay was in Scotland

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and then to London, then there, Barcelona, Spain,

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then Rome, Paris,

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and then finished into Cannes at the film festival.

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And then back home 18 months later

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where I studied under more chefs.

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And then eventually had my own business

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where I did team buildings for Fortune 500 companies.

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And then from there, I had a few articles written about me,

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I believe that is where MGM Grand connected me.

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They called and asked if I was interested

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for a position at the MGM Grand Skylofts Hotel.

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It's a boutique hotel, non-gaming for

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what they call global nomads.

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High-end clientele, as a butler,

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which is personalized service,

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which would include culinary skills, also wine,

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food, knowledge, just everything

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that a global guest would want.

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And I said, absolutely.

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I was one of almost 4,000 applicants.

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They were taking 16.

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And so I moved here. And so I worked at the MGM Grand.

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This is quite a story so far.

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And now we get to the part where it's a different chapter,

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I think, where you lost your vision.

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And as much as you're comfortable with,

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talk about how that happened.

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Was it a sudden thing? Was it happening slowly?

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How did that come about?

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When I came, when I moved here to Las Vegas area,

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I started working at the hotel and I was fine.

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I was very healthy.

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The woman that trained us actually trains the royal staff.

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And so she trained us on everything, even how to walk,

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how to pack, unpack everything you can think of.

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And in learning how to walk, I mean really gracefully,

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that's one of the things I noticed, that my gait was off.

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Another thing I noticed was when I would put down a cup

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on a table to serve my guest, it wasn't silent,

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and you're really not supposed to make any noise

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when you're in their space.

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So I just became aware of some of the things

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that was happening to me.

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We took a trip to Williams, Arizona, to the Polar Express.

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Some people know about the Polar Express, with my daughter.

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She was probably maybe eight years old at the time.

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And I noticed on that trip I had started to get an eye pain

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and I just kind of thought, huh, oh, well.

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But, 'cause it came and it had gone,

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on the way back, it happened again.

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On that Monday, getting ready for work,

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I went in to get ready in the bathroom

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and as I turned on the light,

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it felt like I was hit in the eye instantly.

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Like I literally fell to the ground

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and just screamed for my husband.

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And he came in, he took me to the doctor

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and they referred me to an optometrist.

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We went to the optometrist.

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He did not understand what happened.

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My retina was fine, everything was fine.

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He gave me some eye drops. It was just a little blurry.

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But he said that it would be from the eye drops.

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Within the week, I could not see.

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I started having my coworkers to read things for me,

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'cause we were very close.

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I didn't want my manager to know.

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So I struggled for about a week.

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And then I finally went back to the doctor

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and that's when they referred me to a retina specialist.

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And he said that there wasn't anything wrong with my retina.

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Went back and forth for maybe two weeks,

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when one of the younger doctors said, "You know,

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in my internship I was

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at the Jules Stein I Research Institute at UCLA,

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and maybe we should refer you there

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because we can't help you here."

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There I saw an amazing doctor, Dr. Levinson,

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he is a uveitis specialist.

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That's when he diagnosed me

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with bilateral panuveitis, coupled with,

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after taking a gallium scan of my entire body,

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another disease that's called sarcoid.

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So it's a very rare eye disease

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that you would have sarcoid in your eyes,

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and that in itself is bad.

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If you had it in your lungs, I'd be dead by now.

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But it was in my eyes.

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And it's a decalcification in the eye, coupled

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with the uveitis, which is inflammatory cells

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that's very active in the eyes.

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And so that's where I see, it is very blurry,

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as well as looking like I see through 10 screen doors.

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And does that change over time?

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Does it stay pretty stable

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or do you have days where you see a lot differently than

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on other days?

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I never know what I'm going to see when

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I wake up.

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It could be totally like a white out

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or I could have some imagery.

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So you just never know from day to day

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what you're going to encounter.

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And you know, that in itself had to be such an adjustment

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because you're trying to figure out, well, I don't know

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what I'm going to see every day.

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And so how do I figure out what's next?

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Because I don't know what's coming next.

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I don't know what it's gonna be like when I wake up.

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And of course then you have your career,

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you're a classically trained chef.

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What were you thinking as you were going through this,

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where you're losing your vision,

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things are all over the place,

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and here's this thing that you've been trained to do

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and now it's a major struggle,

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I would think, so what were you thinking?

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Well, under my doctor's care,

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they did not allow me to go back to work.

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There I was at home and I can't see, I'm not working.

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So I had so many losses.

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It didn't take long

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before I sat here and looked around at my house

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and said, "What am I gonna do now?"

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And immediately I said, "I'm gonna go to school."

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I made a promise to my husband years ago

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that I would get my bachelor's, so why not?

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Why not get it now? I can't go to work.

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I have time and I'm going to do it.

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And I applied here at the University of Nevada,

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Las Vegas, UNLV,

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and I got into their biological sciences program.

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Little did I know, my vision was gonna be a little problem.

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And I like to say that my vision,

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my loss of sight was so sudden

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I didn't have time to think about it.

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So I just kind of went into life like I still had vision.

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I gave it thought, but I didn't give it much thought.

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I signed up for all my classes

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and I realized I can't see the board,

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I can't even see my teacher.

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I need help. And I found myself getting behind.

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My books were not accessible.

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I didn't even know what the word inaccessible meant.

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I didn't even really know what accessible technology meant.

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So this was a whole new world for me.

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I had to learn for five years of going to undergrad

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with the help of amazing Disability Resource Center,

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the first blind woman I ever met, that was my advocate

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for disability on the campus.

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My teachers, they were very understanding

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and helped me along the way because they saw my spirit

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and my tenacity to not quit.

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I eventually graduated and finished.

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But during those five years, even at home,

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I didn't cook very much.

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I was very apprehensive.

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I would imagine so. I mean, this is something

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that you really loved and you trained to do

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and used to enjoy doing.

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And then suddenly,

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the way that you approached it had totally changed.

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So I think at some point you must have said,

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there ought to be a way I can do this.

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I wanna cook again.

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And so what happened

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when you started to make that decision?

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How did you start cooking more than a taco or a salad

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and what were the people around you like when you decided

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that you wanted to go full throttle,

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'cause I'm sure you did. How did that all work?

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I didn't make the decision.

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Someone made the decision for me.

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I went into my disability resource advocate on the campus

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of UNLV, into my senior year.

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And I went in crying profusely saying,

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'cause at the the same time I was also,

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not only was I a full-time student,

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I'm still a full-time wife.

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I'm a full-time mom and I'm a full-time patient

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because I'm still going to see all my doctors.

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Now, I begin to have integrated care at UCLA

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because I became,

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I had many critical illnesses developed.

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I had lupus, I developed lupus as well

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as chronic arthritis,

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and rheumatoid arthritis actually, coupled with my vision.

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And so that one of the ways that they could treat all

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of the symptoms was giving me a low dose of chemotherapy.

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And so I was in chemotherapy monthly based

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on my blood work.

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And so I was doing that once a month,

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every month while I was still in school.

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And so you have the same side effects, you get nauseous

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and dizzy and sick, then I would have an exam or study.

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So was still going through that whole process.

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And that's when I finally went into my advisor

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and I just said, you know, "I don't think I can do it.

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I think I need a break. 'cause my body, it's just a lot."

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I think at that moment, wow,

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I realized I was blind.

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It took me almost four years to realize,

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Hey girl, you're blind.

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And she said, I have a place for you.

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I want you to go to the Blindconnect.

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It's a mobility and orientation training center.

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You need to have blindness skills. And I did.

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And that had to be so hard to finally face that

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because all the moving forward with life,

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and it's wonderful that you did it.

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You know, I'm sure you wouldn't change any of that,

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but to just continue forward then to reach

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that point where you say, I've put so much into this

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and yet I'm blind.

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I can't not face that.

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And then to hear, we can help you

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and there's a place for you.

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Yes, there's a place for you.

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And there's people just like you.

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First of all, on the campus,

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there's no one that looks like me.

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Okay. I'm an older student.

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There's no one walking around blind.

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So there isn't anyone like me.

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Here I found a space.

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I saw people that had canes and dogs

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and that was struggling and had challenges

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and learning on their iPhones.

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I'm like, what? You mean I can actually use my iPhone again.

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I can actually not struggle with my work, my homework

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and my schoolwork.

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And it was a whole, I mean, I can actually walk

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with the cane and get around

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and not feel like I'm gonna fall downstairs.

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And I could go wherever I wanted to go and read.

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And I could take in the sounds.

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Like I could hear birds,

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I could hear kids play,

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the things that I just never thought about before.

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It was a whole new wonderful world.

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A whole new community of people that embraced me

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and taught me.

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There was nothing that they wanted to hide from me.

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Everything that they had, they wanted to give to me.

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I had many cheerleaders that was very supportive.

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I didn't have anyone saying, oh, Gina,

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you shouldn't do that.

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Because they just knew me.

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They knew that there wasn't going to be anything

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that was gonna stop me.

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And so I had no pushback from anyone.

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The only pushback, of course, was just my safety.

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And, you know, maybe I was, you know,

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maybe going too many places.

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Like you're on the paratransit again.

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Like, yeah, I'm on the paratransit.

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But no, I had great supporters, my husband.

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I'm a out of the box thinker. I've always been.

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And I like to say that he always stands by out of the box.

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And then of course, my mother,

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she's just such that great warm support, that nudge of,

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that's right, sweetheart, you keep going.

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She's just that little, that cheerleader at the beginning

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and the end of the finish line.

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It's incredible that you've had people

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who were willing to support you.

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And I think it shows, I mean,

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you've been able to do quite a lot.

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And so I do wanna talk about just a little bit of that

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and what happened in the kitchen

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when you really started to get back into it.

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Were there things that actually weren't

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that different than you were accustomed to,

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you just kind of had to get used to it again?

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And then were there things that were actually really hard

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that you really had to work at in order to feel safe

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and comfortable as you're cooking?

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When I entered the kitchen, it's sort of like

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that friend that you talk to every now and then,

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just kind of say, "Hey girl, what's up?"

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And she's, "Oh, it's cool."

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That's kind of how it was with my kitchen.

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I wanted to let her know that I'm back.

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I had to get reconnected.

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I went into my kitchen and I just said, you know what?

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I'm just gonna make an amazing meal.

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And of all the meals I would make, it was moqueca.

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I wanted to go full on.

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It's a Brazilian fish stew, and I just wanted to go for it.

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That's lots of chopping. It's brilliant, vibrant colors.

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It's using amazing ingredients.

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It's sauteing, and simmering, and waiting, and processing.

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It's a lot. So I did.

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And plus I wanted to find out how my skills were.

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I wanted to test my skills

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and I wanted to test the accessibility of my own kitchen.

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I also wanted to test how well I navigated my kitchen.

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And so from that test, 'cause as chefs

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and as also as a scientist,

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because I did eventually graduate

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with a degree in psychology

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and neuroscience, it's all about testing

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and seeing the data.

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So I went in and I did it.

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I tested, I wrote down some things that I needed

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to help me to survive in my kitchen.

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And I did it. And I found that there was things

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that I was challenged in.

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For one, it was my knife skills.

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However, I found that I still had that muscle memory.

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But what I now needed to do was to step back a bit

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because I was just chop, chop, chop, chop, chop.

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Like that's what we do. We're done and it's over.

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But I had to find that, it had to be methodical.

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I had to think about my cuts

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and I had to be careful that I didn't cut myself.

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The other thing I noticed in my kitchen was measuring,

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especially measuring wet ingredients, liquids,

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because we use a wet measure, not a dry measure.

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Totally two different elements of measuring something.

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As far as cooking, it is a science.

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And so I had to figure out how can I use my dry measure

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to compensate for my wet measure.

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So I had to test that,

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and it's just simply by adding two additional tablespoons

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would give me my one cup liquid measure.

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So I had to do a lot of testing for myself to compensate

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for my new found vision loss.

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Other things that I found was tools

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that I had to use in the kitchen to help me.

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I had to use indicator dots to help me

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with the microwave because the panel,

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it's a flat screen panel,

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the interface is just not, you can't see it.

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So just putting simple indicator dots in my kitchen

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on my stove to indicate whether it was high, medium, low.

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So I had to organize my kitchen

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and make it accessible for myself.

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I had to clear off all my counter space

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because I found that with my vision

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and it's gradually decreasing,

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lots of stuff on my counter was too much for me.

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It's better for me to go

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and pull it out than to have it all on my counter.

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So for me, I had to just clear off all of my counter space.

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Another thing, I had to clear out all of my spices,

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all of my cupboards, and put them into bins

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where I could just pull from like all my spices,

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just put it in a nice bin,

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and then put it back in my cabinet rather than searching

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and trying to get way in the back of a cupboard.

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And then my spice drawer, I had to pull it out.

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It's a huge spice drawer.

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And I had to put it all in alphabetical order

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because I do have some vision and I can see it.

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I took a sharpie

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and I actually wrote on all of the bottles,

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like large print, like lemon pepper, I put an LP.

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For garlic, whatever, I put a big G.

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So I had to outfit my kitchen.

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And that's how it happened.

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I had to figure out a way to make things work for me.

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And then in cooking,

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because I can't see when something is done,

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now I have what I call the sounds of kitchen,

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intuitive cooking now.

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My listening, smelling, you know,

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because when you're baking a cake,

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she's gonna tell you, she's gonna send off a scent,

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a beautiful aroma.

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And food will talk.

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Food will tell you what's happening.

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And I realized that with low vision,

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that I depended so much because I've always

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thought it has being a very visual concept.

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And now it's a non-visual.

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I'm taking it into a non-visual world

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and I'm gonna make it work for me.

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The sounds and the smells of kitchen,

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getting in tune with those other sensory was very vital

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and it became my friend.

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Just hearing the rumbling of eggs boiling,

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the beautiful caramelization of sugar.

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I know, I could smell it.

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I can smell when my sugar is starting to go

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from a simple syrup, into a caramelization, into caramel,

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I now don't have to see that, I can smell it.

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And so that's what happened.

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I had to get back in and not be fearful of my kitchen

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and safeguard myself with the equipment and tools,

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like long gloves for my oven.

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Sometimes when my vision is really poor,

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I can use a food processor to chop up my ingredients

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and not be too proud to use some of those aids

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that's gonna help me.

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Although I'm a chef, I can say,

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"Look, I don't wanna cut today.

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I'm just gonna use my food processor."

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I love it. And that's all part of

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getting reacquainted

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with your kitchen

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and reacquainted with what you can do, right?

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Because as you said, you always thought, well,

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this is a visual medium

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and you didn't have a reason to think of it otherwise.

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But it took that, I'm going in,

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I'm gonna see what this is like.

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And by doing that, you were able to rediscover something

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that you loved and you were able to do it

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and discover different aspects it.

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I love as you're talking about using your other senses,

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because food really is a multisensory experience anyway.

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And so just using those things to make food,

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it's a beautiful description that you give,

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so I love that.

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So not only are you cooking for yourself and your family,

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you are looking to share parts of this journey

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with other people.

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And so I wanna talk a little bit about that.

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I know that you do classes with other blind people,

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and you're also involved

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in something called the Holman Prize,

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which is three different people get ultimately chosen

504
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for some financial assistance, so $25,000,

505
00:27:32.760 --> 00:27:35.790
to make a project come to life.

506
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And you've created a video for this specific project

507
00:27:39.840 --> 00:27:43.565
that you're hoping will help the community

508
00:27:43.565 --> 00:27:46.980
and help other people on their journey

509
00:27:46.980 --> 00:27:48.510
of getting back into the kitchen.

510
00:27:48.510 --> 00:27:53.400
So can you talk about just the things that you are doing now

511
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with other blind and low vision people,

512
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and also what it's like being a Holman Prize candidate

513
00:27:59.580 --> 00:28:01.860
and what you have in mind for that?

514
00:28:01.860 --> 00:28:02.693
In cooking, I realized that the more senses

515
00:28:02.693 --> 00:28:03.526
I use,

516
00:28:09.030 --> 00:28:11.673
the richer my world is around me.

517
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:15.300
What I wanted to do,

518
00:28:15.300 --> 00:28:18.870
because of the pandemic, everything was shut down.

519
00:28:18.870 --> 00:28:21.210
And shortly thereafter,

520
00:28:21.210 --> 00:28:26.210
some of the programming started coming about on Zoom.

521
00:28:26.250 --> 00:28:28.200
And so we started resuming,

522
00:28:28.200 --> 00:28:31.260
say like the support groups came back on Zoom,

523
00:28:31.260 --> 00:28:34.761
and the technology was on Zoom.

524
00:28:34.761 --> 00:28:36.840
And I thought, well, you know what,

525
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what about the cooking?

526
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How can I make this?

527
00:28:40.080 --> 00:28:42.060
And so I did some research

528
00:28:42.060 --> 00:28:45.990
and there really wasn't a model that I found

529
00:28:45.990 --> 00:28:47.640
that I could use.

530
00:28:47.640 --> 00:28:52.260
I did find a lot of discussion groups, which was, oh man,

531
00:28:52.260 --> 00:28:54.060
absolutely amazing.

532
00:28:54.060 --> 00:28:59.060
A programming of discussion groups that I tuned into,

533
00:28:59.130 --> 00:29:03.570
especially with Hadley, has an amazing discussion group.

534
00:29:03.570 --> 00:29:07.350
Then I said, okay, I want to do something

535
00:29:07.350 --> 00:29:10.890
that is live, real time,

536
00:29:10.890 --> 00:29:15.890
that I can have participants watch me do it.

537
00:29:16.470 --> 00:29:19.800
A blind chef, and they're blind

538
00:29:19.800 --> 00:29:21.660
so they can make a connection.

539
00:29:21.660 --> 00:29:25.830
And that I can do this, I know I can do this.

540
00:29:25.830 --> 00:29:27.810
And of course, some people thought,

541
00:29:27.810 --> 00:29:32.340
What, Gina, it's not gonna happen.

542
00:29:32.340 --> 00:29:35.040
And I just thought, you just watch.

543
00:29:35.040 --> 00:29:40.040
So I did, I talked to my colleague and mentor

544
00:29:42.420 --> 00:29:46.680
and I said, "Hey, I think I'm gonna try this."

545
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:48.990
And she said, "Do it."

546
00:29:48.990 --> 00:29:50.430
I thought, well,

547
00:29:50.430 --> 00:29:54.180
I'm gonna just do an eight week beginning course,

548
00:29:54.180 --> 00:29:57.450
and I'm going to take it back to

549
00:29:57.450 --> 00:29:59.700
when I was a culinary student.

550
00:29:59.700 --> 00:30:04.700
Everything was theory first, and then you started cooking.

551
00:30:04.800 --> 00:30:09.270
And I thought, I will teach them theory, basics,

552
00:30:09.270 --> 00:30:11.790
blindness skills in the kitchen,

553
00:30:11.790 --> 00:30:16.560
organizing your kitchen, safety, food safety,

554
00:30:16.560 --> 00:30:17.850
just those kind of things.

555
00:30:17.850 --> 00:30:21.990
And then eventually I would do just a little demo

556
00:30:21.990 --> 00:30:23.910
of non cooking stuff.

557
00:30:23.910 --> 00:30:27.600
Like we didn't even touch the oven or the stove.

558
00:30:27.600 --> 00:30:31.410
I just did like salads, vinegarettes,

559
00:30:31.410 --> 00:30:33.900
like pesto sauce, you know, things like that

560
00:30:33.900 --> 00:30:35.910
that they can do in a blender.

561
00:30:35.910 --> 00:30:37.410
And then eventually,

562
00:30:37.410 --> 00:30:41.550
my last two classes I did real cooking

563
00:30:41.550 --> 00:30:44.338
and that's when they were able to see me cook

564
00:30:44.338 --> 00:30:46.320
and got involved and they were just really excited.

565
00:30:46.320 --> 00:30:51.320
And then so into the new year, the series then picked up

566
00:30:51.360 --> 00:30:54.660
and it became like totally cooking.

567
00:30:54.660 --> 00:30:59.660
And I had a menu and send out recipes and it's just amazing.

568
00:30:59.901 --> 00:31:03.510
I have participants all over the United States now

569
00:31:03.510 --> 00:31:07.740
that tune in and it's just a beautiful concept.

570
00:31:07.740 --> 00:31:10.200
The one thing different about this product

571
00:31:10.200 --> 00:31:13.620
that I present to my community is

572
00:31:13.620 --> 00:31:18.330
that it's not just a cooking show or a cooking class,

573
00:31:18.330 --> 00:31:21.330
but comes with it, it's a blind chef,

574
00:31:21.330 --> 00:31:24.180
but it's descriptive cooking.

575
00:31:24.180 --> 00:31:28.260
So I am actually telling you how to hold your knife,

576
00:31:28.260 --> 00:31:32.100
what tools to use, how to use your tools.

577
00:31:32.100 --> 00:31:36.180
Everything I do is descriptive so that that person

578
00:31:36.180 --> 00:31:38.310
that's sitting in that Zoom seat

579
00:31:38.310 --> 00:31:40.980
that has absolutely no vision,

580
00:31:40.980 --> 00:31:43.620
should be able to follow along with me.

581
00:31:43.620 --> 00:31:45.240
And that's the whole thing.

582
00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:49.020
That's what you're not going to get on a YouTube channel,

583
00:31:49.020 --> 00:31:53.250
because as we know, if I go to YouTube channel,

584
00:31:53.250 --> 00:31:54.780
I don't even know what they're doing.

585
00:31:54.780 --> 00:31:56.910
There's nothing descriptive about it.

586
00:31:56.910 --> 00:32:01.590
So that's what I bring to my community,

587
00:32:01.590 --> 00:32:05.880
is allowing them to be able to come into their kitchen,

588
00:32:05.880 --> 00:32:09.840
to be a friend with their kitchen and to step in,

589
00:32:09.840 --> 00:32:13.500
just like I had to step in, with confidence,

590
00:32:13.500 --> 00:32:18.500
with independence, and to cook and eat amazing food.

591
00:32:19.830 --> 00:32:21.420
There's no reason that

592
00:32:21.420 --> 00:32:25.140
because our sight is impaired,

593
00:32:25.140 --> 00:32:29.220
why we can't eat amazing food and cook amazing food.

594
00:32:29.220 --> 00:32:33.270
There's no reason why we can't use leeks and ginger

595
00:32:33.270 --> 00:32:38.270
and purple potatoes and all these amazing ingredients.

596
00:32:38.340 --> 00:32:43.110
There's no reason why we can't make our own vanilla extract,

597
00:32:43.110 --> 00:32:47.779
compound butter, simple syrups and infuse sugars and salts.

598
00:32:47.779 --> 00:32:52.779
So I'm able to, as a professional, classically trained chef,

599
00:32:53.520 --> 00:32:58.520
bring them into a whole new world

600
00:32:58.770 --> 00:33:01.170
of amazing food.

601
00:33:01.170 --> 00:33:06.170
With the Holman Prize, herein lies my project.

602
00:33:07.950 --> 00:33:10.710
I thought, here's an opportunity

603
00:33:10.710 --> 00:33:15.450
for me to totally give back to my community

604
00:33:15.450 --> 00:33:17.010
by first of all,

605
00:33:17.010 --> 00:33:22.010
developing and publishing a cookbook designed by

606
00:33:23.670 --> 00:33:28.670
and written by a chef who is blind.

607
00:33:29.040 --> 00:33:33.690
I want to make it into braille, large print,

608
00:33:33.690 --> 00:33:36.960
and also an audible format.

609
00:33:36.960 --> 00:33:41.250
In that cookbook will be descriptive language,

610
00:33:41.250 --> 00:33:45.030
meaning your techniques are very descriptive.

611
00:33:45.030 --> 00:33:47.970
Unlike any recipe you're going to find,

612
00:33:47.970 --> 00:33:51.900
along with the tools that you use.

613
00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:56.627
When you get a recipe, it says to combine gently.

614
00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.760
What does combine gently mean?

615
00:33:59.760 --> 00:34:02.310
What tools are you using?

616
00:34:02.310 --> 00:34:06.180
Well, this will say using a whisk

617
00:34:06.180 --> 00:34:09.000
in your right hand or dominant hand,

618
00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.850
turning the bowl slightly upward,

619
00:34:11.850 --> 00:34:16.850
whisk until you can hear the patter against the bowl.

620
00:34:17.610 --> 00:34:20.760
As the egg whites are thickening,

621
00:34:20.760 --> 00:34:24.810
your whisk will become slower.

622
00:34:24.810 --> 00:34:29.550
So it's going to give them descriptive communication.

623
00:34:29.550 --> 00:34:33.060
Additionally, with that, I would like to do,

624
00:34:33.060 --> 00:34:37.440
with the recipes, audio descriptive,

625
00:34:37.440 --> 00:34:42.440
five minute, how to instructive videos

626
00:34:42.630 --> 00:34:44.580
along with the recipes.

627
00:34:44.580 --> 00:34:47.970
So that way when you're in the recipe,

628
00:34:47.970 --> 00:34:50.010
you can click on a link.

629
00:34:50.010 --> 00:34:52.350
If you have an issue in that recipe,

630
00:34:52.350 --> 00:34:54.090
you can click on the link

631
00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:57.300
and there will be a short description

632
00:34:57.300 --> 00:35:00.420
with me doing that same thing.

633
00:35:00.420 --> 00:35:04.740
And so you'll have that instructional video.

634
00:35:04.740 --> 00:35:09.390
With that, a website, with those videos attached

635
00:35:09.390 --> 00:35:11.550
along with the YouTube channel,

636
00:35:11.550 --> 00:35:15.180
where that class participant

637
00:35:15.180 --> 00:35:20.180
and blind centers across the United States

638
00:35:21.120 --> 00:35:23.520
could have access to,

639
00:35:23.520 --> 00:35:28.050
in their home management and culinary programs.

640
00:35:28.050 --> 00:35:30.720
So that when they're teaching students

641
00:35:30.720 --> 00:35:34.470
in these culinary programs and their cooking classes,

642
00:35:34.470 --> 00:35:36.690
the basics of cooking,

643
00:35:36.690 --> 00:35:41.040
no matter where they are, a novice cook

644
00:35:41.040 --> 00:35:45.540
or someone who's in the program that has been cooking,

645
00:35:45.540 --> 00:35:50.540
that they can click on that video and show the students.

646
00:35:50.550 --> 00:35:54.780
And lastly, is that I would like to be able

647
00:35:54.780 --> 00:35:59.640
to present these to major food networks to let them see

648
00:35:59.640 --> 00:36:02.040
that this is a need in the community

649
00:36:02.040 --> 00:36:07.040
so that perhaps these can air on a public channel.

650
00:36:08.850 --> 00:36:10.290
I love this idea

651
00:36:10.290 --> 00:36:13.050
and I know that so many others will as well.

652
00:36:13.050 --> 00:36:16.290
It's something I can say from experience

653
00:36:16.290 --> 00:36:19.470
that would be incredibly necessary

654
00:36:19.470 --> 00:36:23.790
because when you are reading recipes,

655
00:36:23.790 --> 00:36:26.940
they always talk about, do this until it turns brown,

656
00:36:26.940 --> 00:36:30.150
or do this until you see, you know,

657
00:36:30.150 --> 00:36:32.760
something become shinier or whatever.

658
00:36:32.760 --> 00:36:35.280
And so they talk about these visual things

659
00:36:35.280 --> 00:36:39.450
and I'm just thinking, how would I know?

660
00:36:39.450 --> 00:36:43.830
And so having these things described is going to be

661
00:36:43.830 --> 00:36:48.360
so helpful because it makes it accessible to the person

662
00:36:48.360 --> 00:36:49.193
who's cooking.

663
00:36:49.193 --> 00:36:53.820
It makes them understand this doesn't have to be visual.

664
00:36:53.820 --> 00:36:55.530
There are other ways to do it,

665
00:36:55.530 --> 00:36:58.020
and here's what those ways are.

666
00:36:58.020 --> 00:37:03.020
So we will have a link to the Holman Prize video

667
00:37:04.500 --> 00:37:06.990
that Regina has produced in the show notes.

668
00:37:06.990 --> 00:37:09.960
And if you wanna go on YouTube and like that,

669
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:12.570
it does really help tremendously

670
00:37:12.570 --> 00:37:16.710
as she moves, hopefully from a Holman Prize candidate

671
00:37:16.710 --> 00:37:21.710
to a Holman Prize finalist and eventually winner.

672
00:37:21.750 --> 00:37:25.410
If you're listening to this beyond the time

673
00:37:25.410 --> 00:37:29.460
of this recording, so we're recording in March

674
00:37:29.460 --> 00:37:32.550
and up through April is when things are happening

675
00:37:32.550 --> 00:37:34.391
with the Holman Prize,

676
00:37:34.391 --> 00:37:35.730
but that doesn't mean

677
00:37:35.730 --> 00:37:39.330
that anything Regina is doing just kind of goes away

678
00:37:39.330 --> 00:37:41.880
after that whole process is done.

679
00:37:41.880 --> 00:37:44.550
So do you have a place

680
00:37:44.550 --> 00:37:46.920
where people can find out more

681
00:37:46.920 --> 00:37:49.500
about things like these Zoom classes

682
00:37:49.500 --> 00:37:51.630
that you were initially conducting?

683
00:37:51.630 --> 00:37:53.580
And if you're continuing those,

684
00:37:53.580 --> 00:37:56.940
where can people go to find out what you're doing

685
00:37:56.940 --> 00:38:00.990
and just get some ideas about what it is

686
00:38:00.990 --> 00:38:02.670
that you're sharing and doing?

687
00:38:02.670 --> 00:38:04.380
I have an Instagram.

688
00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:08.580
I post almost weekly, sometimes twice a week

689
00:38:08.580 --> 00:38:11.880
on my classes and recipes and pictures.

690
00:38:11.880 --> 00:38:16.200
And so it's Regina D. Mitchell.

691
00:38:16.200 --> 00:38:20.040
Awesome. And we'll have the link to that Instagram

692
00:38:20.040 --> 00:38:22.440
in the show notes as well.

693
00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:27.440
Regina, it has been amazing getting your story.

694
00:38:27.510 --> 00:38:28.620
I just love it.

695
00:38:28.620 --> 00:38:32.190
And as we wrap this up, is there one final thing

696
00:38:32.190 --> 00:38:34.680
that you'd like to leave our listeners with

697
00:38:34.680 --> 00:38:37.020
that we haven't yet covered?

698
00:38:37.020 --> 00:38:42.020
There is, and I will say to my beloved community,

699
00:38:42.330 --> 00:38:45.900
it takes time and we can get back in the kitchen

700
00:38:45.900 --> 00:38:48.270
and we can make amazing meals.

701
00:38:48.270 --> 00:38:50.130
But not only can we get back into the kitchen,

702
00:38:50.130 --> 00:38:52.830
but we can get back into our lives.

703
00:38:52.830 --> 00:38:54.687
We can navigate our spaces

704
00:38:54.687 --> 00:38:59.687
and we can show ourselves that we are amazing individuals.

705
00:39:01.500 --> 00:39:05.100
We can show others that we can eat

706
00:39:05.100 --> 00:39:08.370
and have great meals.

707
00:39:08.370 --> 00:39:12.840
And I just wanna say that we do not have

708
00:39:12.840 --> 00:39:16.860
to let blindness be our characteristic.

709
00:39:16.860 --> 00:39:20.910
It's just not. We are more than that.

710
00:39:20.910 --> 00:39:25.910
So get up, get into the kitchen and take it slow.

711
00:39:27.150 --> 00:39:29.010
Thank you so much for joining us

712
00:39:29.010 --> 00:39:32.580
and for sharing your story and your passion. I love it.

713
00:39:32.580 --> 00:39:33.924
Thank you.

714
00:39:33.924 --> 00:39:34.757
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715
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718
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721
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