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Welcome to Hadley Presents.

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I'm your host, Ricky Enger, inviting you to sit back,

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relax, and enjoy a conversation with the experts.

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In this episode, we discuss safely managing medication

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with options from En-Vision America.

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And joining us are Monica Buboltz,

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rehabilitation teacher for blind and visually impaired

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and director of marketing for En-Vision America, Jenna Reed.

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Welcome to the show, both of you.

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Morning everyone.

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It is so good to have you both,

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and we're talking about a subject

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that is actually a favorite among our audience,

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partly because it's an incredibly important topic.

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That is, how do we manage medication safely and effectively,

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and most importantly, accessibly.

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So, you know, just being able to do that independently

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in a way that works for you.

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It's something that people often ask about,

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and so just being able to present those options to people,

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it's going to be a great time

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and very informative with both of you.

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So again, so happy to have you.

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Before we get started, why don't we just take a minute

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to let you both introduce yourselves

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and talk a little bit about who you are and what you do.

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Monica let's start with you.

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Yes, good morning everyone.

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My name is Monica Buboltz and I live in Minnesota,

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and right now it's a beautiful wintertime here.

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I have worked in the medical field

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for over forty some years, retired from there,

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but I continued my own business,

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which is rehabilitation teacher

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for people with vision and blindness.

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And I'm very passionate about it

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because I've lived with blindness my whole life.

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I do have some remaining vision,

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but I do relate to the folks that I work with very well

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because I get it and it's a struggle every day,

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but you know, there's always something worse out there.

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So, you know, there's nothing in life you can't do,

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as my braille teacher said, except maybe drive a car.

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And I was able to do that for a short time.

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So that's my story and I'm sticking to it,

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and what we're talking about today

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is a very important subject to me.

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So, thank you for having me.

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Fantastic, Monica, thank you.

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And Jenna, you are in a slightly warmer climate

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than Monica, I think.

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Tell us a bit about who you are

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and what you do with En-Vision America.

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Hi Ricky, thank you so much

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for having me and Monica on today.

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So, I am with En-Vision America.

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I'm a director of marketing.

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We are in Palmetto, Florida,

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so the West Coast or the Gulf Coast of Florida.

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So, let's jump into,

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I guess letting people know

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what is available for medication management.

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'Cause I think it's difficult when you are not able

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to check out what's on the printed label,

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and maybe you've never been able to do that,

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or maybe you have vision loss.

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And so, you used to be able to just pick up the bottle

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and see what's on it, but now you can't.

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And I think that there really isn't

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a one size fits all approach

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because some people don't like technology,

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some people don't know braille.

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Some people, you know, still can see things in large print.

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So, I guess I'm wondering

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what are the options that are available

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from En-Vision America, Jenna?

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Sure, we have a lot of options available.

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You know, We want to cover the gamut.

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Basically, at our core,

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we want to make the information on medication labels,

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visual and in the large print if needed or audible.

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We also work in dual language labels.

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And then for people who are taking

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the controlled substance safety labels,

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we have an offering for that as well.

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So, our most popular offering

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or our flagship which a lot of people know about

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is our talking prescription labels.

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Those are ScripTalk.

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They're very easy to use.

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They're free at thousands of pharmacies throughout the US.

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Real quick, basically the pharmacist

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puts a small circular tag,

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usually on the bottom of your prescription bottle.

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And then you can either use a little device,

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I liken it to an old school portable CD player,

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and you set it down and you just push a simple button,

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it reads it out loud.

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Or you can use your cell phone

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to go ahead and have that read out loud audibly.

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And again, there's no charge for this.

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If you need the device, we ship it free.

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You keep it as long as you need it.

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We just ask you return it to us

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whenever you're done with it.

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Another option that we offer

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for people who do have some usable vision

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is large print labels.

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Those are in a booklet style,

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so they're securely attached to that prescription bottle.

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And has all the, just like ScripTalk,

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it has your doctor's name, your dosage, your instructions,

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your warnings, your refill, and all that good stuff.

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And then for those individuals

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who maybe English isn't their first language,

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we offer dual language labels,

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which again is a booklet style that's attached.

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It has both English

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and then one of twenty-five different languages

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we can translate into.

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And then of course we do braille.

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It is a contracted braille,

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so it's more of a cheat sheet

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as to what's in that medication.

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And a lot of people will get ScripTalk

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in conjunction with that because they want to hear

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all that information out loud then,

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which the braille is only again, a cheat sheet.

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And then for those who are on the stronger medications,

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we have the controlled substance safety labels,

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which again follows our format.

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It's a booklet style that's attached to that bottle.

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And then the cool thing about that one

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is it has a QR code on it that you can scan.

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It just drives home some of those risks

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associated with that medication,

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like taking it at nighttime before bed, taking it with food,

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you know, those kinds of things.

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Just to help you be a little bit safer

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because some of those, there's a lot of risks,

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more of your opioids and things like that

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that would be associated with that.

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So, I think that covers the highlights.

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Absolutely.

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And it sounds like there are options really for everyone,

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whether you're into technology,

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whether you want to have it read out to you.

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I love the fact that if you're getting braille,

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you can also kind of supplement that with,

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"I want to just have a quick read

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of what this medication is,

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and I can do that in braille,

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but if I want that extra information,

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it's available in another way."

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So, Monica, you are low vision yourself,

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and you also work with people who are blind

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or have low vision.

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I'm wondering, what did you do before ScripTalk

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was available and was there ever a time

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where either you or maybe somebody that you know,

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that you work with had a situation

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where having that information on the label was essential,

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but you didn't have access to it,

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so you're kind of in an unsafe situation?

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Well, the population that I mostly work with

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are seniors.

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Seniors do not always have smartphones.

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Seniors are not always willing to make changes

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in their lifestyle.

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But for me to introduce them to ScripTalk

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because I was at a convention

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and that was where I got hands-on

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to various different type of label readers.

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And I chose En-Vision America

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because to me it was the simplest

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and probably the most cost-effective way

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because the others were something

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that was actually physically attached to a bottle

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that would probably cost a pharmacy more,

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and then they would hesitate to move forward with it.

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Because when I saw this, I thought, yes, this is awesome.

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This will work for people.

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And my seniors don't need a smartphone

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if they don't have one, they don't need that.

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It's just, it's so easy.

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But the biggest drawing point for me,

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for my consumers was it was free.

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I love to introduce people to resources that are free.

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And ScripTalk is a free service,

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and I think that is the most important thing.

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And there are clients that I've had

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that have had their own systems, and I clearly,

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when they show me, it's like, "Oh, this is dangerous."

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This is very dangerous depending upon,

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they depend upon the pill shape and color of the pill.

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Medication changes rapidly,

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and you cannot depend upon those kind of resources

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to get by in life,

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that this is your true medication for your heart

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or whatever it may be.

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That's so a good point, Monica.

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I know when I go to the doctor,

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a lot of times I'm on one generic and they switch me.

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My pharmacist switches me to another generic,

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and it's a different looking pill.

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It feels different in my hands so it's kind of scary.

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No, you cannot depend upon that.

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And I got to say I'm a senior myself.

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You're kind of stuck in your ways, and this is how it is.

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No, it is not how it is.

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Using a device like this,

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reading the whole thing on your bottle.

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And then I have the person that will say to me,

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"Oh, but my husband helps me.

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Oh, my daughter comes over weekly and fills my thing."

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If your husband has to go to the nursing home,

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you are still in your own home

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and your daughter is on a cruise, who is going to help you?

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Your neighbor maybe can't see either

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or hear or whatever it may be.

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You have to have plan B set in place.

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Plan B is this.

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It's a label reader that's easy to use.

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Turn it on, put the bottle on top,

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it's going to tell you everything on that whole bottle.

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It can't get simpler than that.

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Or use your smartphone if you have one,

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but it is just so easy and it's free.

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That's the two selling points for me.

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And do people listen to that?

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When you talk about this, I guess for both of you,

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I know that some people are really resistant to change.

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Like you said earlier, Monica, people get set in their ways

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and they're thinking, "Well, if I just squint really hard,

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I can still see what's on the bottle.

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Or if I just get used to the shape of the pill,

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I will be just fine or what have you."

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So are there things that you can say

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to kind of talk them through that resistance

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for whatever reason they don't want to get this,

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even if it's free.

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Are there things that you can say to them

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that tend to work really well in convincing them,

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"You know, maybe this isn't going to be so bad?"

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I have a lot of tactics, but mostly

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I just show them.

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I just show them it and they can see for themselves.

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They can be hands on, they can feel it, they can hear it.

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The volume is very good.

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So, for hearing impaired,

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which a lot of times goes along with vision impairment,

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and I just show them.

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"Hey, now isn't this simple?"

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Because if Johnny is gone for the night, he's working,

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and you got this prescription delivered to you

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and you are sick.

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You're not feeling well,

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you cannot remember how many you were supposed to take now.

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Do you want to just take a handful?

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I don't think so.

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You want to take as directed,

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so put it on your little thing here

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and it'll tell you exactly how many to take right now.

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And you don't have to depend on anyone.

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And it's available.

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You don't have to use it every day, but it's there.

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It's available.

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So, what about the logistics of all of this?

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What do people need to do to get started?

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And Jenna, I guess I'll direct that one to you.

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People, you know, they may have their pharmacy

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that they currently go to,

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and that pharmacy may not know a single thing

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about En-Vision America or ScripTalk or any of it.

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So, what do people do to get the ball rolling?

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The easiest thing folks can do once

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they hear about this,

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and they decide that they want accessible labels

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is just to directly give us a call at En-Vision America.

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Our phone number is 1-800-890-1180.

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We have a wonderful patient care advocate team

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that works the phones, business hours all week long.

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We do the work behind the scenes.

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We find out what your pharmacy is,

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and we can see if it's available at that pharmacy.

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If it is not, we will definitely talk to that pharmacy

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and we will educate them and we will do our best

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to bring them on board.

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We can also recommend a pharmacy that's near you.

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If for some reason your pharmacy doesn't offer it,

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there's usually another pharmacy

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in your community that does.

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For example, we're in all Walmarts

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across the retail counter.

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All you have to do is go in and ask for it.

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Now, if they don't know, remember, Walmart is a big company

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and not every retail counter has it

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until somebody's asked for it,

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so they don't realize that they can offer it to you.

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That's again, call us.

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We know the corporate side,

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we talk behind the scenes to them,

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and we'll help get you set up.

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You know, most of the big mail orders do it.

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I know Express Scripts does, Optum Rx, Kaiser Permanente.

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A lot of the grocery stores, Hy-Vee, Meijer,

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Publix, if you're in the south and Florida,

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you know Rite Aid, Sam's Club, CVS has a spoken RX version,

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which I know you have talked about as well.

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Wegmans.

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It's also in all the veteran affairs

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throughout the country as well.

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So that one is available too.

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So basically, what happens

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is we get you set up at your pharmacy

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and then they'll get your information,

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and they'll flag you as a ScripTalk user.

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And then they send us a simple form if you want the device.

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We don't have access to any of your prescriptions

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or your medical information,

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but we're going to follow up with you.

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We will get your information

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and then we'll ship out this free device for you

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that you can have as long as you need it, again.

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And then we just follow up with you periodically.

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I think it's once every six months.

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And then once you're set up,

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we'll also follow up with you

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just to make sure everything's going smoothly

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so if there's any issues, we always want to hear about it.

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We're here to make this as simple as possible, so.

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And the other thing I can note too is if you are tech-savvy,

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you can go to our website, En-VisionAmerica.com,

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scroll to the very bottom of that homepage,

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and there's a pharmacy lookup.

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It'll even let you, it will automatically know

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your zip code, and it can pull up

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within a 10, 15, 25-mile radius,

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and it'll show you all the pharmacies around you

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that do offer it.

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That's excellent.

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And I think the best part of that is that

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is that it sounds like if there are roadblocks,

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you know, sometimes pharmacies don't know things

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or they're overworked and understaffed

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and it can be problematic to keep calling and calling

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and going, "Where's my ScripTalk?"

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It sounds like all of those things

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are really handled behind the scenes.

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So, the patient gets things started, and then after that,

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it's a conversation between En-Vision America

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and the pharmacy.

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And eventually you get your device,

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or you get your app and right there

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you have accessible medication without having to,

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sometimes it feels interminable, you know,

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going back and forth with pharmacies

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and bureaucracy and such.

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So, it's good to see that that is not an issue.

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We do our best to make it as easy as possible.

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Absolutely.

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Is there anything that either of you

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would say to somebody

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who's thinking about contacting En-Vision America right now,

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or they're thinking about doing this,

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but they're still kind of on the fence?

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Yes, I do have a good thought on this one.

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I always say, don't wait for tomorrow,

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so you want to be prepared.

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You want to be prepared in case your eyes

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are not intact that day.

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Your environment makes a huge difference

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of how you see from day to day.

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Be prepared, have this as your plan B,

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because you don't want to wait till tomorrow

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and tomorrow you can't read it.

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Certainly, thanks so much for that, Monica.

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Jenna, any final thoughts from you

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that you'd leave the listeners with before we go?

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So, anything that we can do to help,

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even if you just have questions and you're on the fence,

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please just give us a call

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and we'll talk you through the options.

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And if you're not ready, you're not ready.

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We're not going to make you do anything

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you don't want to want to do,

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but we do want to talk to you

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about what's available and what we can do to help you

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just be a little bit more safe and independent at home.

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And it actually is a win-win situation.

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So, if there's ever any hesitation, it's out there,

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it's available, take advantage of it.

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There's not a lot of things free in the world,

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and this is one of them.

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Well, thank you both so much for stopping by

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and sharing this information with us

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and just sharing your passion

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for making sure that people have what they need

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to be as independent as they can be.

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We will have information in the show notes

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about how to get in touch with En-Vision America.

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So, check that out.

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And thank you both again for stopping by

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and thank you all so much for listening.

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Thank you for having us.

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Thank you Ricky, we appreciate you and

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your audience.

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