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If you spend more time looking for
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what you need than you
actually do in getting things
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accomplished, organizing
your space with a system
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that works well for
you can be a huge help.
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In this episode, Hadley's Tiffany Mpofu
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and Lisa Salinger.
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Join us to share tips for
organization with vision loss.
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I'm Ricky Enger and
this is Hadley Presents.
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Welcome to the show, Tiffany and Lisa.
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Thanks Ricky. Thanks for having me.
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Yes, thank you so much.
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These are always great times
to be able to share and learn.
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I am delighted to have you both back.
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And it is that time where
people start to think about
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New Year's resolutions
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and what kind of thing
can I do more of this year
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or what can I do better with this year?
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And believe it
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or not, organization is actually on my
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resolutions list.
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I'm just one of these people that I know
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how much it's gonna help me
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and I know all of the reasons to do it,
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but somehow I still keep finding ways
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to be inefficient about things.
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So for me, it's going
to be about figuring out
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where things should be
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so I can just put my hand on something
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and keep moving on with
my day instead of looking
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and like, where did I put it?
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Okay, I've just gone through
five different places
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and I still didn't find it.
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So that's me.
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Would you say Tiffany, are
you a pretty organized person
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or are you a little chaotic
or maybe a little of both?
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I would say a little of both.
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I try to be organized,
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but you know, it's like when
you have one of those days
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where you've just made it in
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and so instead of putting
the the keys on the key hook,
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it kind of just goes someplace else.
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So now when you're ready
to go, now you're searching
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around looking for keys and that.
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That's very relatable.
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Lisa,
What about you?
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I would say I'm, I'm pretty organized.
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I like knowing where things are
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and I feel better in
myself when I can just
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put my hand on a thing.
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Now that's not to say that I'm perfect.
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This weekend I lost
something for almost a day
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and I'm finding that the
things that get me, like
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with the holidays coming,
I have things moved
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to accommodate some decorations
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and I have a one bedroom apartment
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so there's only so much room.
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So gifts are starting to
encroach on living spaces
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and things are in different spots.
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And so that's when I
really kind of need to
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up my organization game.
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Not so much when you
know in the day to day,
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but when things change
as they inevitably will.
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So maybe you are a person who has
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always been organized,
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but if things are changing for
you in terms of your vision,
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that organization may
look a little different.
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Or maybe you have always been disorganized
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and you've kind of relied on,
I don't know, the kindness
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of strangers or just kind
of flying by the seat
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of your pants or whatever,
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or glancing around the room
to see where something is.
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And now you can't do that.
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So I guess, what are some reasons that
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things might be a little
more difficult if your vision
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has changed?
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I know again, for me,
the one thing I think
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of is you can't really glance
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around the room anymore in
the same way that you used to.
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So that might be a
reason that you struggle.
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What are some other reasons?
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You can have things that
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look very different from each other,
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but if you're not relying
on your site anymore
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or you never have, the problem
comes when they feel alike.
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I have heard of numerous people
who have brushed their teeth
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with both Ben Gay and preparation H.
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Not something necessarily
I would recommend,
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but you know, that can happen.
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So it's also about identifying
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and marking what you have.
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It kind of stinks, but
it's just the way it is.
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Organization takes longer.
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If I buy canned goods
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and spices from the store,
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I can't just chuck 'em at a shelf.
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They've gotta be labeled first
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and it does take a little more time.
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And then I think, you know,
I gripe, I think, oh, I hate
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that it takes that much time.
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And then I think to myself, okay,
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would you rather take
a little time labeling
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or would you rather take
a little time rummaging
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around and fussing?
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And I'm like, no, I think
labeling is actually better.
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And also too, I, I want to add to
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that like when you have
control over your environment,
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it makes you feel that
much more confident.
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For instance, my husband,
you know, instead
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of asking him all the time,
where's this, where's that?
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You know, it, it feels great
when I can just put my hand on
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something and it's right there.
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And then also too, being organized, it a
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to being safe in your environment, right?
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So like using sharp knives instead
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of putting them in the dish water
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that can cause like injury,
put them on the back
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of the faucet until it's
time for them, you know,
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to clean them and then put them away.
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Or even like items being in in the walkway
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or like a chair is
pulled out or misplaced.
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So just being organized
helps also to stay safe.
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That's a really good point
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and I wanna go back to
something you said Tiffany,
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and when things are going
really well, it's amazing.
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But you know, if you live with
someone it can be difficult.
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You can be making your
system of organization
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and then you have to have the
talk with your family members
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or whatever to say, Hey,
if you move something from
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where I've put it, I'm
not able to look over
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and see where you put it.
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It's essentially gone for me now.
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So any tips for having that conversation
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or is it really just about doing that,
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explaining why it's a big
deal if people move stuff?
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Yeah, I think it's
really about just having
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that conversation, you know,
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and even going through your method
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or system of how you've organized.
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Like say for instance like
certain things go in certain
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places, like maybe
there are certain spices
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that are on the spice rack near the stove
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or maybe there's a cupboard
that is only for baking.
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Just having that conversation
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and saying it's really helpful.
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You know, like, like the
saying, what's the that saying,
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Oh yeah, a place for everything.
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Yes, thank you. So yeah,
it makes it easy to find.
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And also when you're cooking
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or doing things in the kitchen,
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you're not searching all over
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'cause now you're spending
two hours to find something
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where it could have been you know,
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just two seconds or two minutes.
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So yeah, I'll say just
having that conversation.
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The other thing I think is
that if you're not organized,
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it's gonna take a lot of time
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and I think it's easy to beat yourself up
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for the organization you lack.
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And I would say celebrate where you are.
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For example, my medicine
cabinet is organized, I know
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what all my medicines are
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and if you're looking for
organization priorities,
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like Tiffany basically was
talking about the importance of
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organizing things so you can be safe.
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So if you're looking for
a starting place, starting
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with safety, you are not
gonna go wrong with that.
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I'll also add too, like start small,
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give yourself 15 minutes
rather in the morning
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or sometime throughout the day
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and just start with organizing
like a drawer or a shelf
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and like Lisa said, reward
yourself after that.
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And then use lists or planners
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or apps when it comes to
documentation to organize.
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And most importantly, be kind to yourself.
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It's easy to get overwhelmed.
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So if you're just
starting out, start small
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or even if you're wanting
to get back in the groove
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of things, still start
small and have fun with it.
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And it could be that
you might need a helper
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to get organized.
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So you may need pay a reader
or someone to help you.
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Maybe you have a family
member who can come, you know,
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or work with you twice a week
for 15 minutes for example.
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I know myself and I am pretty organized,
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but when I come in the door
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and my hands are full, the idea
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of a key hook is almost amusing to me.
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'cause things are gonna
fly, they're just gonna,
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I'm gonna drop 'em, I'm gonna
go do what I need to do.
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And so having a designated
kind of drop spot
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and you're like okay, I dropped it here
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so now I'm gonna come back.
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And those things I dropped
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'cause I just had them,
I know what they are,
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I'm gonna come back and
I'm gonna organize them.
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So it doesn't always
have to be instantaneous.
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Maybe you come in
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and you don't have time
to put anything away
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because the dog's gotta go out.
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And the other thing is if
you think you're gonna forget
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where something is, you
can say it out loud.
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For example, I put the the box
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of arborio rice I need
for Christmas dinner
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on the the small cupboard,
something like that.
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But saying it out loud, it sounds strange
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but it helps cement in
your mind where it is.
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It's like you almost hear it,
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you're hearing it and you're placing it.
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So you're kind of getting
that input from two senses,
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Like Lisa was saying too,
like understanding your style.
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So even if that means like coming in
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and dropping things down
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and then making that mental
note to okay, now I'm gonna go
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and put the keys where they belong
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or I'm going to put my
wallet where it goes,
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just making mental notes of
things and be consistent.
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And when you have a
routine it it becomes like
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second nature.
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So making those mental notes
and setting a a routine
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and being consistent,
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that can help in keeping things in place.
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And it's very easy to depend
on your memory to think,
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okay, I just got this new crock bot
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and I'll remember how
the buttons are laid out.
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Chances are pretty good.
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Unless you're using that thing every day,
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you are not gonna remember.
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I think we have so much to remember.
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I mean all the appliances are smart now
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and they have multiple things
and do things in multiple ways
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and there's just a lot more to
remember And I, I think it's
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not necessarily a good thing
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when we pressure ourselves to remember it.
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So I have a, a file called layouts
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and it's the layout of my TV remote
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and the remote for this,
that and the other thing
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and how my instant pod is laid
out, you know, all of that.
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So I would say use those things
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and don't just rely on your memory
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because unfortunately it's kind of the law
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that at the time when
you need it most it's,
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it might fail you.
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Right, exactly.
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Like even too using tactile markers
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or stickers like on
the stove, like on some
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of those appliances as
well can really be helpful.
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Especially if you're cooking big meals
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and maybe you're rushing around
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and it's like, okay, what
button do I press now
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for this to make it work?
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So yeah, so having those
markers on there could,
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could be helpful.
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Yeah, I'm glad you bring that up
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because I do think
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that's one thing people
may get caught up in
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is, okay, I know I need to organize
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and this is going to be something
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that will really help me,
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but I don't even know how, you know,
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when I think about
organization it feels complex,
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it feels overwhelming
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and I think there are a lot of ways,
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we've already named a couple of them.
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So having little bins or
baskets to separate things in
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and knowing which things
are yours or whatever.
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Even putting rubber bands on things.
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One has one rubber band,
one has two, one has three.
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And you just happen to know
what that system means to you.
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Tactile markings, that can
be a good way to figure out
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what things are.
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You can do large print,
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you could do color coding if
you have some color vision.
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So I think
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don't get caught up in having a
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system that is Martha
Stewart worthy or whatever.
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It just needs to be a
system that you understand.
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So now that we've talked
a little bit about
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what is possible, why
you want to organize,
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what it's really gonna help
with, maybe it would help to
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just go through a couple
of rooms in the house
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and give some practical tips for things
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that you might do for that particular room
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to make things a little better.
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So we've talked about
the kitchen a little bit,
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but maybe share a tip
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or two for getting things
organized in the kitchen.
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So I have a lot of
kitchen gadgets, large
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and small, everything from
electric to small things like
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you know, spatulas and wooden
spoons and potato mashers.
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And so I have two containers.
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One is kind of a big metal bucket
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and all my taller kind
of utensils go in there.
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little caddy kind of thing
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that holds littler utensils
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and things of that nature.
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And it just helps because
you still have to kind
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of sort through them.
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But if you can group them kind of
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by size eventually you remember.
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Alright the pizza cutter is
in with the littler things
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and the bottle brush is
in with the larger things.
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My setup is similar to Lisa's
when it comes to u utensils,
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but when it comes to like mixing bowls
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and things like that, I have
a specific cabinet for that.
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And then cookware, I
have a cabinet for that.
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And then my smaller appliances,
like my food processor
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and cheese shredder, I
have a separate cabinet
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for those things as well
as for glass baking dishes.
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So, and then also too, I use
a lot of different seasonings
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and I have a spice rack
with the more common ones
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that I use like daily.
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And then also too in the
cabinet above my spice rack,
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I do have ones that have salt.
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So all of my spices that
have salt are on one shelf
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and then my husband has
his special seasonings
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that he likes to use.
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So those are way at the top.
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So, and that works out
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because everything how
I organize is according
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to to my height.
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'cause I, I'm vertically
challenged, I'm a little shorty so
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it is just easier to get to those things.
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But everything that I
use is mostly on the,
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the lower shelves.
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And then do you do like a baking cabinet
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and a spices cabinet?
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I do that. I like to bake
bread and other things.
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So I might have pastry flour,
bread flour, wheat flour
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and all purpose
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and all the bags feel the same
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so I end up putting them
in just differently sized
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or shaped canisters.
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So that works. And then when
it comes to the freezer,
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I have veggies on one side
and meat on the other.
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And then down below I'll
have things divided too.
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But even then it's a little chaotic.
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So I like to have things
somewhat organized.
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And then because my style
is to use technology,
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I'll pull out a tech tool
if I'm not sure the corn
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and the peas may feel
similar if I'm in a hurry.
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So let's just pull out that tech tool
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and figure out the difference
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between those two frozen items.
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And I think you do that
as well probably Tiffany,
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you get your magnifier out.
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I do, yep. My, my phone is
almost like tied to my hip,
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so like especially when
reading those labels
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for the spices.
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But also too, I'll use the scene AI app
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to read some of those as well.
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So yeah, but mostly I
am using my magnifier.
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Makes sense. Okay, so
next up is the closet.
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And some people will organize this
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by getting things that
go with everything else
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and that is certainly a system that works.
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If you want to get neutrals
that pair with other neutrals
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and just not have to think about it,
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that's one way you can do it.
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One thing I do is I'll divide,
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you know, shirts and pants
and skirts and blazers.
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They all have a separate
section of the closet,
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but I use a color identifier,
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unfortunately I can't
find one for the phone
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that works well.
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But there is one called the color star.
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So that helps me
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and I'll organize from
lightest to darkest,
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but even then that's not enough.
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'cause sometimes you've got
things that are patterned
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and so you wanna know, I don't wanna wear
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stripes with polka dots or whatever it is.
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And so I use a tag system
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with my phone to do this so I'm able
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to describe the garment, then use the app
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to tap it against this little
tag that you can attach
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to the hanger or you can
sew inside the clothing
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and it will speak that description.
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So that's kind of my techie way to do it.
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Another thing I've done is I
use my meta glasses sometimes
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and just hold up a shirt
or a blazer or whatever
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and say describe this and
it does a a pretty nice job.
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Are there some lower tech ways to do this?
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I don't know. I do
kind of high tech too.
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I do find that sometimes
the AI does a better job
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of describing colors
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and patterns than a color
identifier on a phone.
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Basically I just put things
by what the garment type is.
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So shirts go in one place,
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pants in another dresses, et cetera.
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Some people like to fold their clothes.
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I fold almost nothing like
even nightgowns and stuff.
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I hang all of that
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because it's easier for me
to get an idea of what it is
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and to access the tags
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which have the information I need.
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If you're looking for
tags, you almost have
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to unfold everything.
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And I use those same
tags that you do Ricky,
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but I also have some braille color tags
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that I pin into my clothes
and I use those as well.
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Cool. And for me, I'm a
grouper, I group everything.
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I hang all my dresses and then my shirts
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and our grouped together sweaters,
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not necessarily colors,
just mostly you know
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what the material is.
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But when it comes to
folding, like I'll fold PJs
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and t-shirts, things like that.
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Maybe like my everyday type
of wear, I'll fold those.
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But one thing, and this was a lesson
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that I learned some time ago.
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So I was off to an event rushing out
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and I have the same shoe but
two different colors, one black
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and the other one is navy blue.
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So I'm rushing around,
I'm getting dressed,
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I just put my shoes on and
I'm waiting on pair of transit
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and the, the driver knocks on the door
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and so I'm, I'm ready to go
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and my husband's like, ah, you
might wanna check your shoes.
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Like one is blue and
the other one is black.
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So I told the driver,
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hold on a minute, let me switch my shoes.
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So from that point
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what I I've done is I've put
like a Velcro sticker on the
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inside of my shoe for my blue ones
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and then my black ones
don't have anything.
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So that is one of those things
where it's hard for me to see
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between a navy, blue, black and brown.
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Just a couple more quick
things that people do.
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You might have a different textured hanger
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for certain things or a
different type of hanger.
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Maybe you've got wire
hangers for some things
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and plastic hangers for another.
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And again, it's just
what makes sense to you.
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So next up we have the bathroom
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and there are a couple of
things that we can do here.
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There is the self-care kind
of stuff with ointments
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or neosporin
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and lotions, shampoos,
conditioners, things like that.
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And then a lot of people have
their meds in the medicine
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cabinet in the bathroom as well.
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So maybe just a couple of
quick tips from each of you
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for keeping that stuff organized.
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Yeah, I'll say like for the shampoo
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and conditioner, for me I,
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I cut a notch in my
shampoo like on the lid
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so I know the difference between the two.
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And then I do have a linen
closet that I keep organized
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with like over the counter
type of medications
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and other products I organize
the shelves depending on
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what the products are.
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I was so surprised the other day
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because I bought a new
shampoo and conditioner
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and it had braille right on the bottle.
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So if you happen to know braille,
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redkin is a good thing to check out.
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Before that I would use
the rubber band technique
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or the rough up one of the lids
technique where you can kind
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of feel, okay, the top
of that feels rough,
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that's the shampoo or one
rubber band for shampoo
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and two for conditioners.
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So that's a way that I
approach that When it comes
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to medications, you would
be surprised at just
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how much, I know a lot
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of people are feeling like
I don't wanna learn braille,
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that feels like a lot.
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But if you know just enough to read one
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or two letters, that can
really help, especially
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with those over the counter meds
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and you've got just a letter
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or two to distinguish
between these bottles.
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Now when it comes to prescription stuff,
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there are talking prescription labels.
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A lot of places do this so if,
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if you're wondering if your pharmacy
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does this, give us a call.
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But CVS certainly does.
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And then for smaller pharmacies
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that might not already do
this, there is a service
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that will work with your pharmacy
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to get those talking labels
that you can either use
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with a standalone reader
that's really easy to use
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or you can use it with an app.
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So that might be helpful too.
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Bathrooms I think are
actually easy-ish to organize
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because generally it's
a small space with a lot
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of built in storage.
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If you're lucky you have
a cupboard under your sink
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and I use that to store extras as well
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as bathroom cleaning supplies.
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And so I have all my prescription
meds in a basically a
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basket looks like a little
milk crate on a shelf.
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But then in the closet where the sheets
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and towels are, I have a
little room on the shelves.
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So on one shelf I have
things like ointments
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and burn cream
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and things like that
bandaids on another shelf.
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I have things like lotion and powder
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and then the over the
counter medicines I put
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in a drawer of my
nightstand in the bedroom.
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And these are kind of the not
the things you might need once
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in a while, like cold medicine,
these are things like,
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I don't know, Tylenol,
Benadryl, anything like
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that that I might need.
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I don't know, more than once
a month they go in there.
505
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And so even if you're organizing
things kind of by type,
506
00:25:57.200 --> 00:25:59.540
I mentioned that just kind of to say
507
00:25:59.540 --> 00:26:03.380
that they don't always all
have to go in the same place.
508
00:26:03.380 --> 00:26:06.920
So just because you have
medicines, depending,
509
00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:10.100
you know you could have
prescription medicines here,
510
00:26:10.100 --> 00:26:12.050
you could have over the counters
511
00:26:12.050 --> 00:26:13.940
that you use all the time here
512
00:26:13.940 --> 00:26:15.770
and you could have things
513
00:26:15.770 --> 00:26:19.550
that you only need occasionally
in another place if you have
514
00:26:19.550 --> 00:26:22.670
medicines for a pet or
a spouse or a child.
515
00:26:22.670 --> 00:26:25.520
They also can go in a different place
516
00:26:25.520 --> 00:26:29.150
and sometimes location
can be a really good way
517
00:26:29.150 --> 00:26:30.200
of organizing.
518
00:26:30.200 --> 00:26:33.620
So you might say okay I have three bottles
519
00:26:33.620 --> 00:26:35.720
that look like this but only one
520
00:26:35.720 --> 00:26:38.150
of them is a medicine I take every day.
521
00:26:38.150 --> 00:26:41.420
So when I find that bottle in
my milk crate, I know, okay
522
00:26:41.420 --> 00:26:43.650
that's my medicine that I take every
523
00:26:43.650 --> 00:26:45.960
I think you really hit on something.
524
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.690
It's about putting it somewhere
525
00:26:48.690 --> 00:26:51.450
that is actually intuitive to you
526
00:26:51.450 --> 00:26:55.620
because if you're relying on your memory
527
00:26:55.620 --> 00:26:57.990
or if you've made the system that sort
528
00:26:57.990 --> 00:26:59.280
of makes sense on paper
529
00:26:59.280 --> 00:27:02.730
but doesn't, when you're just going
530
00:27:02.730 --> 00:27:05.250
through your daily life, then
531
00:27:05.250 --> 00:27:06.630
it's not going to work so well.
532
00:27:06.630 --> 00:27:08.670
But if it makes sense
533
00:27:08.670 --> 00:27:11.730
and you would expect to find
it in a particular place,
534
00:27:11.730 --> 00:27:13.770
then maybe that can kind of help
535
00:27:13.770 --> 00:27:16.920
to determine maybe you're
looking for a place
536
00:27:16.920 --> 00:27:19.560
for something in particular
and you're not sure,
537
00:27:19.560 --> 00:27:21.570
but if you think about
where am I going to use it,
538
00:27:21.570 --> 00:27:25.770
that might actually help you
find it, it's home so to speak.
539
00:27:26.610 --> 00:27:30.990
So one last thing I wanna chat about is
540
00:27:30.990 --> 00:27:34.560
the important papers
and documents and such.
541
00:27:34.560 --> 00:27:37.470
And this, this is no fun for anyone
542
00:27:37.470 --> 00:27:42.390
and it's way less fun if
suddenly glancing down
543
00:27:42.390 --> 00:27:47.310
at it and figuring out
the print on it is nowhere
544
00:27:47.310 --> 00:27:49.200
near as easy as it used to be.
545
00:27:49.200 --> 00:27:53.610
And so are there ways
that both of you kind
546
00:27:53.610 --> 00:27:55.650
of keep these things organized?
547
00:27:55.650 --> 00:28:00.150
For me it's about having
different feeling folders
548
00:28:00.150 --> 00:28:03.930
as well as a location for specific things.
549
00:28:03.930 --> 00:28:08.400
So I know that all my warranties manuals,
550
00:28:08.400 --> 00:28:11.880
what have you go in this folder
551
00:28:11.880 --> 00:28:13.530
and I don't need it often.
552
00:28:13.530 --> 00:28:15.630
So it's kind of in and
out of the way place.
553
00:28:15.630 --> 00:28:19.080
Whereas things like birth certificates
554
00:28:19.080 --> 00:28:21.510
and that kind of thing, that's somewhere
555
00:28:21.510 --> 00:28:25.260
where I immediately know
where to go to get it
556
00:28:25.260 --> 00:28:26.670
and I know what it feels like
557
00:28:26.670 --> 00:28:30.000
and I can get to it quickly.
What about all of you?
558
00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:33.600
Yeah, it's good to like
have a filing system.
559
00:28:33.600 --> 00:28:37.080
For myself, I use a color coding system,
560
00:28:37.080 --> 00:28:40.290
so using different color folders
561
00:28:40.290 --> 00:28:43.860
and also to creating large print labels.
562
00:28:43.860 --> 00:28:46.950
So sometimes I'll use sticky notes
563
00:28:46.950 --> 00:28:49.200
and put them on the the flap of it
564
00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:51.450
and then of course write on it what it is
565
00:28:51.450 --> 00:28:52.890
and then stick it on there.
566
00:28:52.890 --> 00:28:56.010
Or sometimes too those little things can,
567
00:28:56.010 --> 00:28:57.240
can fall off easily.
568
00:28:57.240 --> 00:29:01.770
So I'll also use like index
cards, write in large print
569
00:29:01.770 --> 00:29:04.650
and tape it on the face of the folder.
570
00:29:04.650 --> 00:29:07.080
So that's one way that I organize.
571
00:29:07.080 --> 00:29:11.610
And another way is using like
a digital system as well,
572
00:29:11.610 --> 00:29:14.730
creating different folders
and naming those folders
573
00:29:14.730 --> 00:29:17.760
and just keeping that all
organized on the computer.
574
00:29:17.760 --> 00:29:21.060
Or even using like the
note taking app as well.
575
00:29:21.060 --> 00:29:25.800
Yeah, I do that with documents
Whenever I can receipts
576
00:29:25.800 --> 00:29:29.100
or anything like that, if
I can get them in my email
577
00:29:29.100 --> 00:29:32.220
or on the computer, even if
578
00:29:32.220 --> 00:29:36.120
the document is in an inaccessible PDF,
579
00:29:36.120 --> 00:29:39.570
I can still rename it 2024 tax
580
00:29:39.570 --> 00:29:41.530
documents or whatever.
581
00:29:41.530 --> 00:29:44.170
I have a file cabinet with folders
582
00:29:44.170 --> 00:29:46.090
with braille labels on them
583
00:29:46.090 --> 00:29:48.430
and it's not as neat as I would like.
584
00:29:48.430 --> 00:29:50.770
For example, I have a manuals folder
585
00:29:50.770 --> 00:29:53.140
and I have a bunch of manuals in there
586
00:29:53.140 --> 00:29:56.680
and so if there's a problem
with a particular item,
587
00:29:56.680 --> 00:29:59.860
I could at least get out my manuals folder
588
00:29:59.860 --> 00:30:03.220
and look through it either
with an app on my phone
589
00:30:03.220 --> 00:30:08.220
or with Ira or with a sighted
reader and find what I needed.
590
00:30:08.260 --> 00:30:12.850
But even then, so often
now manuals are online,
591
00:30:12.850 --> 00:30:17.850
I do keep some manuals in Ziploc bags
592
00:30:18.010 --> 00:30:20.890
and I label those Ziploc
bags like I don't know,
593
00:30:20.890 --> 00:30:23.020
exercise machine manual
594
00:30:23.020 --> 00:30:27.130
because if that exercise
machine came with tools
595
00:30:27.130 --> 00:30:29.350
and so they go in the bag with the manual.
596
00:30:29.350 --> 00:30:34.350
So that is a case where I
label manuals separately.
597
00:30:34.600 --> 00:30:38.620
Yeah, so I think all
of this goes to show
598
00:30:38.620 --> 00:30:42.520
that there really is no right way to do it
599
00:30:42.520 --> 00:30:43.570
and there are things
600
00:30:43.570 --> 00:30:46.690
that you may be incredibly organized about
601
00:30:46.690 --> 00:30:50.440
and then things that
you are organized enough
602
00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:54.550
to then, as Lisa was mentioning,
603
00:30:54.550 --> 00:30:57.100
once you get to that folder of manuals
604
00:30:57.100 --> 00:31:01.090
or whatever it is, then you can
find the thing that you need
605
00:31:01.090 --> 00:31:04.570
as long as you're kind of
generally in the right place.
606
00:31:04.570 --> 00:31:08.200
I hope that as you're
all listening to this,
607
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:11.650
you feel a little more encouraged to say,
608
00:31:12.550 --> 00:31:16.300
I can do this in a way
that makes sense for me.
609
00:31:16.300 --> 00:31:18.430
It is going to be a work in progress.
610
00:31:18.430 --> 00:31:19.990
That's what I would say.
611
00:31:19.990 --> 00:31:23.200
But it's well worth doing it
612
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.690
and I think you'll learn as you go along
613
00:31:25.690 --> 00:31:27.760
what things are going to work well for you
614
00:31:27.760 --> 00:31:28.900
and what things you try
615
00:31:28.900 --> 00:31:32.410
and say, Nope, this
organization system was a bust.
616
00:31:32.410 --> 00:31:35.500
It did not work. Back
to the drawing board.
617
00:31:35.500 --> 00:31:38.890
Anything from either of you
that you wanna say to people
618
00:31:38.890 --> 00:31:40.510
as we kind of wrap up?
619
00:31:40.510 --> 00:31:43.600
Just anything encouraging,
taking that step
620
00:31:43.600 --> 00:31:45.430
to getting organized.
621
00:31:45.430 --> 00:31:48.550
You know, if you're looking
for ideas, maybe you're stuck,
622
00:31:48.550 --> 00:31:49.990
you know, no worries.
623
00:31:49.990 --> 00:31:52.120
Call us, call Hadley
624
00:31:52.120 --> 00:31:54.730
and we, we could brainstorm with you,
625
00:31:54.730 --> 00:31:56.770
we can talk through it together
626
00:31:56.770 --> 00:32:00.790
And you know, it kind of
dovetails with organization.
627
00:32:01.690 --> 00:32:06.220
Hadley's labeling workshops
would also probably be very
628
00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:07.330
helpful in this venture.
629
00:32:07.330 --> 00:32:11.950
We have ones on labels
you touch and audio labels
630
00:32:11.950 --> 00:32:13.360
and large print labels.
631
00:32:13.360 --> 00:32:17.170
So there is indeed something for everyone.
632
00:32:17.170 --> 00:32:19.780
Absolutely. Yes.
633
00:32:19.780 --> 00:32:22.420
Well thank you both so much for dropping
634
00:32:22.420 --> 00:32:24.910
by sharing your organization tips
635
00:32:24.910 --> 00:32:28.120
and we'll have links to those workshops
636
00:32:28.120 --> 00:32:31.330
and tips in the show notes.
637
00:32:31.330 --> 00:32:34.300
And as Tiffany said, give us a call
638
00:32:34.300 --> 00:32:35.440
and talk things
639
00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:37.660
through when you're
struggling to figure it out.
640
00:32:37.660 --> 00:32:39.320
We're so happy to help.
641
00:32:39.320 --> 00:32:40.820
Thanks so much for joining us
642
00:32:40.820 --> 00:32:44.300
and I hope your new year is
off to an excellent start.
643
00:32:47.150 --> 00:32:48.860
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644
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645
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646
00:32:54.890 --> 00:32:56.600
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647
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648
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650
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651
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